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	<title>Comments on: The people inside our markets – part I</title>
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	<description>Across the world, Nandan is recognized as one of India's most successful software entrepreneurs and as the co-founder of Infosys, among India's premier companies in the IT sector. Now meet Nandan, the author.</description>
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		<title>By: Amit Murthy</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2008/12/20/the-people-inside-our-markets-%e2%80%93-part-i/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Murthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a tangential note, check this out - http://bookoutlines.pbwiki.com/Predictably-Irrational - A list of experiments on people's irrational behavior under different circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a tangential note, check this out - <a href="http://bookoutlines.pbwiki.com/Predictably-Irrational" rel="nofollow">http://bookoutlines.pbwiki.com/Predictably-Irrational</a> - A list of experiments on people&#8217;s irrational behavior under different circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Harsha</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2008/12/20/the-people-inside-our-markets-%e2%80%93-part-i/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Harsha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cooperative movement in Maharashtra understood banking needs of the farmers; they easily replaced traditional traders as 'providers of financial solutions'. Their structures were more equitable and democratic; they were 'social entrepreneurs' on forefront of Maharashtra's development. They did everything from investment to marketing. Most importantly, their banks were designed for the functions of their socio-political movement; they went on to achieve much higher purpose of establishing cooperation as a community value- than mere branch operations meeting customer demands. Though they operated in different business environment, what matters is they really performed and came to be known as "Sugar Lobby". They dominated the state politics for decades. 

But now co-operative sector is falling short to meet challenges of modern times (globalization is one key factor), the co-operative politics has gone morally bankrupt, and farmers have no leaders. Sharad Pawar shifted quickly from sugarcane (food) to cricket (media), but farmers are hardly able to change their 'profiles'. The rural youth also plays cricket (reflecting his aspiration to become urban) but no one will ever get equity in BCCI.   

The financial institutions need to be entrenched in process of change while working with any part of our market, especially the backward ones. The developmental solution may be anything- ranging from urbanization to reviving the agriculture to employment guarantee scheme, we need to have more bankers understanding the basics of change economics and create the products-services for catalyzing the socio-economic change. They need to design products-services not just for transactions – investment is perhaps the most important. Community development was inherent in co-op banking but only way for modern banks (ICICIs, HDFCs) to have effective societal penetration is to walk on the shoulders of cutting edge innovative social movements – both technological and organizational innovations on forefront. 

Since everyone values money, financial sector has huge role and responsibility in creating what we can call as reform enterprises. We, unfortunately, have history of ‘them’ waiting forever. No ventures and no angels. They will talk about microfinance, but refuse the responsibility of acting on several levels between micro and macro or moving along several angles between horizontal and vertical processes of development.  They only change when changing societal values (or 'change in value perception' as business describes it) bring the total catastrophe on wall streets. People in our markets need financial institutions for change resulting into market expansion and benefiting everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cooperative movement in Maharashtra understood banking needs of the farmers; they easily replaced traditional traders as &#8216;providers of financial solutions&#8217;. Their structures were more equitable and democratic; they were &#8217;social entrepreneurs&#8217; on forefront of Maharashtra&#8217;s development. They did everything from investment to marketing. Most importantly, their banks were designed for the functions of their socio-political movement; they went on to achieve much higher purpose of establishing cooperation as a community value- than mere branch operations meeting customer demands. Though they operated in different business environment, what matters is they really performed and came to be known as &#8220;Sugar Lobby&#8221;. They dominated the state politics for decades. </p>
<p>But now co-operative sector is falling short to meet challenges of modern times (globalization is one key factor), the co-operative politics has gone morally bankrupt, and farmers have no leaders. Sharad Pawar shifted quickly from sugarcane (food) to cricket (media), but farmers are hardly able to change their &#8216;profiles&#8217;. The rural youth also plays cricket (reflecting his aspiration to become urban) but no one will ever get equity in BCCI.   </p>
<p>The financial institutions need to be entrenched in process of change while working with any part of our market, especially the backward ones. The developmental solution may be anything- ranging from urbanization to reviving the agriculture to employment guarantee scheme, we need to have more bankers understanding the basics of change economics and create the products-services for catalyzing the socio-economic change. They need to design products-services not just for transactions – investment is perhaps the most important. Community development was inherent in co-op banking but only way for modern banks (ICICIs, HDFCs) to have effective societal penetration is to walk on the shoulders of cutting edge innovative social movements – both technological and organizational innovations on forefront. </p>
<p>Since everyone values money, financial sector has huge role and responsibility in creating what we can call as reform enterprises. We, unfortunately, have history of ‘them’ waiting forever. No ventures and no angels. They will talk about microfinance, but refuse the responsibility of acting on several levels between micro and macro or moving along several angles between horizontal and vertical processes of development.  They only change when changing societal values (or &#8216;change in value perception&#8217; as business describes it) bring the total catastrophe on wall streets. People in our markets need financial institutions for change resulting into market expansion and benefiting everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: David R GerWish</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2008/12/20/the-people-inside-our-markets-%e2%80%93-part-i/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>David R GerWish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ground level realities of various projects should be judged by the end result of reaching various demographics of India. The truth is that a Mirage of success on various projects is being projected, which does not reach the poor. It's not the poor who should be blamed for those. Every person cannot be a Kshatriya, nor a Chanakya. You should not expect everyone to do everthing evertime:-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ground level realities of various projects should be judged by the end result of reaching various demographics of India. The truth is that a Mirage of success on various projects is being projected, which does not reach the poor. It&#8217;s not the poor who should be blamed for those. Every person cannot be a Kshatriya, nor a Chanakya. You should not expect everyone to do everthing evertime:-(</p>
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		<title>By: sheelaa</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2008/12/20/the-people-inside-our-markets-%e2%80%93-part-i/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>sheelaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indian Banking Industry has many schemes that is tailored to suit farmer's requirement.  for e.g. the crop loan is designed to finance during the sowing season and repayment is aligned with the harvest (Rabi and Kharif crops).  It is not lack of suitable schemes that is the reason but the conservative/cautious approach of the Banking system that pushes the farmer to knock on the door of private money lender.  It is very difficult for a marginal farmer without proper acrage to borrow from Bank due to minimum land holding required and other securities needed to secure a loan.  Bank's reach to remote villages is also limited.  It is highly necessary to ensure the schemes reaches the needy farmer. 


The tendency to splurge whenever one has some liquidity is in human nature.  However in rural India such expenses especially for weddings of daughers or family events is also driven by social beliefs and needs.  Even today it is not easy to marry off a not so educated and financially dependent girl without spending good amount of money in the marriage.  So between repayment of loan and the expenses for family functions or marriages they have to choose the later as they have no other choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian Banking Industry has many schemes that is tailored to suit farmer&#8217;s requirement.  for e.g. the crop loan is designed to finance during the sowing season and repayment is aligned with the harvest (Rabi and Kharif crops).  It is not lack of suitable schemes that is the reason but the conservative/cautious approach of the Banking system that pushes the farmer to knock on the door of private money lender.  It is very difficult for a marginal farmer without proper acrage to borrow from Bank due to minimum land holding required and other securities needed to secure a loan.  Bank&#8217;s reach to remote villages is also limited.  It is highly necessary to ensure the schemes reaches the needy farmer. </p>
<p>The tendency to splurge whenever one has some liquidity is in human nature.  However in rural India such expenses especially for weddings of daughers or family events is also driven by social beliefs and needs.  Even today it is not easy to marry off a not so educated and financially dependent girl without spending good amount of money in the marriage.  So between repayment of loan and the expenses for family functions or marriages they have to choose the later as they have no other choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Murthy</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2008/12/20/the-people-inside-our-markets-%e2%80%93-part-i/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Murthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But economics has always been about collective behavior. "Value" has never been a physical property (like weight, color, hardness, etc), but the collective demand for a thing. Thus the "value" of gold is just what people in modern societies ascribe to it. For example, it has zero value in a remote, non-integrated tribe in the Andamans.

And once modern economies ditched the gold standard (where quantities of the stuff were limited due to its physical nature), the value of anything has become subject to easy swings w.r.t. mass belief in the same (tech companies, houses, oil, whatever). Physical gold cannot disappear overnight, but "value" of modern currencies, stocks, etc can. Since a) it is virtual and b) only exists in the collective consciousness of modern societies.

And once money stopped being tied to a physical substance, governments could much easily just "print" it, or basically create it out of thin air. Which is what Obama and all governments are promising now. Of course, the "value" of the newly printed dollars will be less, or in other words, inflation goes up.

Coming back to bubbles, since a) modern markets are electronic and b) money is not linked to a physical substance, bubbles are pretty much a given. Wall street, with all its brains, thrived on them. Just move the virtual money from one bubble to another and keep going. Tech bubble, real estate bubble and shortest of them all - the commodities bubble. And all these bubbles were never a function of livelihood linked demand and supply. They were speculation linked demand and supply. 

But, finally, it looks like reality is catching up. But, I would still not put it past Wall Street to cook up something new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But economics has always been about collective behavior. &#8220;Value&#8221; has never been a physical property (like weight, color, hardness, etc), but the collective demand for a thing. Thus the &#8220;value&#8221; of gold is just what people in modern societies ascribe to it. For example, it has zero value in a remote, non-integrated tribe in the Andamans.</p>
<p>And once modern economies ditched the gold standard (where quantities of the stuff were limited due to its physical nature), the value of anything has become subject to easy swings w.r.t. mass belief in the same (tech companies, houses, oil, whatever). Physical gold cannot disappear overnight, but &#8220;value&#8221; of modern currencies, stocks, etc can. Since a) it is virtual and b) only exists in the collective consciousness of modern societies.</p>
<p>And once money stopped being tied to a physical substance, governments could much easily just &#8220;print&#8221; it, or basically create it out of thin air. Which is what Obama and all governments are promising now. Of course, the &#8220;value&#8221; of the newly printed dollars will be less, or in other words, inflation goes up.</p>
<p>Coming back to bubbles, since a) modern markets are electronic and b) money is not linked to a physical substance, bubbles are pretty much a given. Wall street, with all its brains, thrived on them. Just move the virtual money from one bubble to another and keep going. Tech bubble, real estate bubble and shortest of them all - the commodities bubble. And all these bubbles were never a function of livelihood linked demand and supply. They were speculation linked demand and supply. </p>
<p>But, finally, it looks like reality is catching up. But, I would still not put it past Wall Street to cook up something new.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2008/12/20/the-people-inside-our-markets-%e2%80%93-part-i/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir, why didn't you just call it by its name - behavioral economics/finance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir, why didn&#8217;t you just call it by its name - behavioral economics/finance</p>
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