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		<title>By: Dr. Swati Allahbadia</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Swati Allahbadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>democracy is a game of numbers. If high caste hindus had sufficient numbers and voted en bloc, the reservation system would now be redundant. sadly it is leaders of the so called 'low castes' who could whip up emotions of an entire community and garner votes. as also for muslims. the recent elections showed that people want a stable and capable government. so perhaps the old caste and community based politics will end. as will reservations. 
the only other solution seems to be that caste hindus have more kids and increase their political clout. and have a party that advocates zero reservation-none for women either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>democracy is a game of numbers. If high caste hindus had sufficient numbers and voted en bloc, the reservation system would now be redundant. sadly it is leaders of the so called &#8216;low castes&#8217; who could whip up emotions of an entire community and garner votes. as also for muslims. the recent elections showed that people want a stable and capable government. so perhaps the old caste and community based politics will end. as will reservations.<br />
the only other solution seems to be that caste hindus have more kids and increase their political clout. and have a party that advocates zero reservation-none for women either.</p>
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		<title>By: Mc</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even i don't agree that lower caste people got the "political power" before "economic power" !!!
Especially reservation in education system didn't help us much in the "tagged" university !!

You ask anyone who studied in the tagged inst, he will say that .... educators don't like people who are selected through this... !! They don't think we as a people working together with the govt to bring this lower caste people !!! In reality again, higher caste people control this somehow !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even i don&#8217;t agree that lower caste people got the &#8220;political power&#8221; before &#8220;economic power&#8221; !!!<br />
Especially reservation in education system didn&#8217;t help us much in the &#8220;tagged&#8221; university !!</p>
<p>You ask anyone who studied in the tagged inst, he will say that &#8230;. educators don&#8217;t like people who are selected through this&#8230; !! They don&#8217;t think we as a people working together with the govt to bring this lower caste people !!! In reality again, higher caste people control this somehow !!</p>
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		<title>By: Tomy PT</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomy PT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In India when we talk of reservations it is always about the lower caste. But let us also see the type of reservations that happens at a different level in the form of MANAGEMENT QUOTAS whether it is for medicine , engineering or any other subject.. 

Is it not true that even if you have scored low marks after all sorts of opportunities in life, if your parents can afford 20 lakhs plus, you still land up becoming a doctor, engineer or whatever else you want. Are we not scared that a lot of the so called professionals in India today have become professionals through this privileged reservation route? See the danger lurking in the corners of our hospitals, bridges and buildings !!? 

Why no one discusses this in the context of reservations is a matter of concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In India when we talk of reservations it is always about the lower caste. But let us also see the type of reservations that happens at a different level in the form of MANAGEMENT QUOTAS whether it is for medicine , engineering or any other subject.. </p>
<p>Is it not true that even if you have scored low marks after all sorts of opportunities in life, if your parents can afford 20 lakhs plus, you still land up becoming a doctor, engineer or whatever else you want. Are we not scared that a lot of the so called professionals in India today have become professionals through this privileged reservation route? See the danger lurking in the corners of our hospitals, bridges and buildings !!? </p>
<p>Why no one discusses this in the context of reservations is a matter of concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Aryan</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Aryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"backward communities have had access to political power before economic power "

How many "non-backward class" prime ministers of India can you name ? Well, if they had political power and they constitue more than 60% of the population, why haven't things changed yet?

IMHO the successive governments have been working for "economic upliftment" while denying political power. The result is that reservation policies don't seem to have changed much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;backward communities have had access to political power before economic power &#8221;</p>
<p>How many &#8220;non-backward class&#8221; prime ministers of India can you name ? Well, if they had political power and they constitue more than 60% of the population, why haven&#8217;t things changed yet?</p>
<p>IMHO the successive governments have been working for &#8220;economic upliftment&#8221; while denying political power. The result is that reservation policies don&#8217;t seem to have changed much.</p>
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		<title>By: Sundar</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>Sundar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shri Narayana Murthy has said that to increase the quality of our higher education, we can do five things:

One, enhance the autonomy of our higher education system;

Second, encourage them to collaborate with world-class institutions outside India, within India too, but most of them are outside India... ;

Third, bring in a sense of meritocracy in the selection of students and the appointment and promotion of faculty;

Fourth, create incentives for our faculty members to do more world-class research; and

Fifth, remove any licensing in the education system. We gave up most of industrial licensing in 1991. It is silly that we continue licensing of our educational institutions. 

Later, Shri Narayana Murthy also adds that we need to value our technicians (the doers) as much as our engineers (the thinkers). Will this ever be reflected in the salary scales and incentives for technicians in our various industries? 

How can these be achieved when the government interferes with our educational institutions and politicises education - such as through reservations? How can we reduce the power of the government so that strategically important sectors of the economy (education, defence, health) are not subject to the populism practices by political parties?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shri Narayana Murthy has said that to increase the quality of our higher education, we can do five things:</p>
<p>One, enhance the autonomy of our higher education system;</p>
<p>Second, encourage them to collaborate with world-class institutions outside India, within India too, but most of them are outside India&#8230; ;</p>
<p>Third, bring in a sense of meritocracy in the selection of students and the appointment and promotion of faculty;</p>
<p>Fourth, create incentives for our faculty members to do more world-class research; and</p>
<p>Fifth, remove any licensing in the education system. We gave up most of industrial licensing in 1991. It is silly that we continue licensing of our educational institutions. </p>
<p>Later, Shri Narayana Murthy also adds that we need to value our technicians (the doers) as much as our engineers (the thinkers). Will this ever be reflected in the salary scales and incentives for technicians in our various industries? </p>
<p>How can these be achieved when the government interferes with our educational institutions and politicises education - such as through reservations? How can we reduce the power of the government so that strategically important sectors of the economy (education, defence, health) are not subject to the populism practices by political parties?</p>
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		<title>By: Akhand</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-791</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sir, 
I am most interested in your thoughts on how and when India could become a meritocracy - where the brightest and most hard working minds can aspire to develop themselves, regardless of what caste or religion they are. Reservations ingrain caste and religious differences.
Thanks
A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir,<br />
I am most interested in your thoughts on how and when India could become a meritocracy - where the brightest and most hard working minds can aspire to develop themselves, regardless of what caste or religion they are. Reservations ingrain caste and religious differences.<br />
Thanks<br />
A</p>
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		<title>By: senthil</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator>senthil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following is an article in "the atlantic" in 1906, about india..
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/190810/nationalist-india

In the last page of the above article, it was mentioned, that the native state of Baroda and Mysore, were prosperous, and have superior education system than the rest of the british rule..  In Baroda, the education was compulsory and free for all..

Where do we find the discrimination and suppression of dalits in these states?  

Also, i have earlier mentioned about dharampal's book on education in india in his book "The beautiful tree", where he states that there were more than 1 lakh schools in madras presidency alone and that almost all castes had their education in those schools..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is an article in &#8220;the atlantic&#8221; in 1906, about india..<br />
<a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/190810/nationalist-india" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/190810/nationalist-india</a></p>
<p>In the last page of the above article, it was mentioned, that the native state of Baroda and Mysore, were prosperous, and have superior education system than the rest of the british rule..  In Baroda, the education was compulsory and free for all..</p>
<p>Where do we find the discrimination and suppression of dalits in these states?  </p>
<p>Also, i have earlier mentioned about dharampal&#8217;s book on education in india in his book &#8220;The beautiful tree&#8221;, where he states that there were more than 1 lakh schools in madras presidency alone and that almost all castes had their education in those schools..</p>
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		<title>By: senthil</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>senthil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kanshiram rose to power through his brahmin hatred..  but its never a problem for our pseudo secular media, and the indian elites and intellectuals who follow them..

And a party that rose out of hatred for a particular caste has been hailed upon..

Reservation has been one of the powerful tools to create vaste divisions in our indian society..  Had reservations not been there, the caste system would have diffused long back..  but because of reservations, the caste got stronger and people started grouping along caste lines..

For most of the younger generations like me, caste got introduced only after 12th std, where reservation was major criteria for entry to professional colleges..

Instead of reservation, if government had taken steps to give special coaching and training to weaker sections, their skills and capability and competence would have improved, and they would have stand in a equal footing with other advanced sections like brahmins..

Also, if we look at the present situation, there are more than 700 industrial clusters in india, and almost all of them developed "NOT because of reservation", but out of their hardwork, without any government support..

If the past governments (mostly the congress) had realised this potential and taken steps, many of the weaker sections would have developed economically..

I think, except for narasimharao who introduced self-employment scheme for youngsters, no other congress leaders ever thought of common man..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kanshiram rose to power through his brahmin hatred..  but its never a problem for our pseudo secular media, and the indian elites and intellectuals who follow them..</p>
<p>And a party that rose out of hatred for a particular caste has been hailed upon..</p>
<p>Reservation has been one of the powerful tools to create vaste divisions in our indian society..  Had reservations not been there, the caste system would have diffused long back..  but because of reservations, the caste got stronger and people started grouping along caste lines..</p>
<p>For most of the younger generations like me, caste got introduced only after 12th std, where reservation was major criteria for entry to professional colleges..</p>
<p>Instead of reservation, if government had taken steps to give special coaching and training to weaker sections, their skills and capability and competence would have improved, and they would have stand in a equal footing with other advanced sections like brahmins..</p>
<p>Also, if we look at the present situation, there are more than 700 industrial clusters in india, and almost all of them developed &#8220;NOT because of reservation&#8221;, but out of their hardwork, without any government support..</p>
<p>If the past governments (mostly the congress) had realised this potential and taken steps, many of the weaker sections would have developed economically..</p>
<p>I think, except for narasimharao who introduced self-employment scheme for youngsters, no other congress leaders ever thought of common man..</p>
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		<title>By: Vote First or Eat First? &#171; Thinking About Nepal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vote First or Eat First? &#171; Thinking About Nepal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read an interesting blog post by Nandan Nilekani, the co-founder of Infosys, one of India’s leading IT companies, titled “With Reservations.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I read an interesting blog post by Nandan Nilekani, the co-founder of Infosys, one of India’s leading IT companies, titled “With Reservations.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jigish Shukla</title>
		<link>http://imaginingindia.com/2009/04/17/with-reservations/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>Jigish Shukla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Nikekani,
 This is a little off topic from your Dalits post. But, I really like your book. I'm about 3 chapters in, will finish before the end of the month. Reading your book is bringing the patriot out of me, lol. Even though I am an American, I wish I can find ways to donate my time to bringing India up. If you know of any avenues to volunteer, for good causes let me know. 

Kindly,
-jigish

ps. Your concept about the Dalits reminds me of a recent book I was reading about Abraham Lincoln. He was in the poorest class at the time, and worked his way up to prosperity. A French scholar during that time quoted that it was all inspiring to see the son of any man be able to succeed as long as he is willing to work hard, and that this could only be done in the United States. I think the challenge is on Indians to make India the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Nikekani,<br />
 This is a little off topic from your Dalits post. But, I really like your book. I&#8217;m about 3 chapters in, will finish before the end of the month. Reading your book is bringing the patriot out of me, lol. Even though I am an American, I wish I can find ways to donate my time to bringing India up. If you know of any avenues to volunteer, for good causes let me know. </p>
<p>Kindly,<br />
-jigish</p>
<p>ps. Your concept about the Dalits reminds me of a recent book I was reading about Abraham Lincoln. He was in the poorest class at the time, and worked his way up to prosperity. A French scholar during that time quoted that it was all inspiring to see the son of any man be able to succeed as long as he is willing to work hard, and that this could only be done in the United States. I think the challenge is on Indians to make India the same way.</p>
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